The following is a question/answer interview of Larry Girouard by the Providence
Business News (PBN, 8/30/2013).
1. PBN:
What attracted you to the position of president of Rhode Island Taxpayers and
why do you feel you're the right person for the job?
GIROUARD:
I have served on the Rhode Island Taxpayer’s board for the last three years and
I fully agree with the mission of the organization in advocating for the
taxpayers of Rhode Island. I also believe that a healthy business community is
essential to a sustainable state economy. My 45 years of business experience in
the manufacturing arena with a focus on strategy, market penetration, and
efficiency will help our organization in framing the key taxpayer issues.
2. PBN:
The mission of your group is to advocate for honest, effective, and fiscally
sound government on behalf of Rhode Island taxpayers. Why is a group like yours
necessary?
GIROUARD:
Whether we like it or not, Rhode Island competes with 49 other states to attract
business, retain business, attract citizens and retain citizens. When you look
at Rhode Island’s performance from a national perspective, our leaders have done
a very poor job in each of these four categories. Our national business brand is
very poor. Last in business friendliness in multiple national studies sends out
a brand message that Rhode Island is not “Open for Business.”
By all
accounts our state is not on fiscally sound footing. We are a long way from
being effective and efficient in serving the taxpayers, and one has to now
question the honesty of our leaders in the wake of 38 Studios that now has the
taxpayers on the hook for an extra $100 million.
Taxpayers
are uncomfortable and uncertain with the state of the state. They need a group
like Rhode Island Taxpayers to provide them information, and advocate on their
behalf with the expectations that our leaders will have the courage to make the
kind of decisions that will improve Rhode Island’s national brand, perhaps
starting by looking at other states to see what is working there.
3. PBN:
If you had one type of tax reform you could set as a priority and focus on
exclusively, which one would it be and why?
GIROUARD:
There are many tax reform areas that need to be put on the table for review by
our leadership. With one of the highest taxed electorates in the country, it is
important for the leadership of Rhode Island to understand that any “big idea”
tax reduction must be accompanied by a budget reduction or it will result in a
zero sum gain.
That said,
the corporate income tax should be reduced significantly. We are losing our
small and medium businesses at an unacceptable rate. As we all know, business
activity produces the jobs and income to support government. We are clearly
uncompetitive with states in New England, a region that is uncompetitive itself.
We must be more competitive in this area than our surrounding states.
Our
political leaders know the situation. They know that it is they who must take
corrective action. What is apparent is that they either do not know what action
to take, or they lack the will to take it. Strong, determined, intelligent
leadership, accompanied by the will to lead the people to a solution that will
require sacrifice from every taxpayer, business, special interest, and, most
important, from a bloated government, is required. There is no easy answer, no
way to do what must be done without major structural change, and the longer we
wait to do it, the more severe the problem will become.
4. PBN:
Your group advocates for an across the board freeze of EDC loan programs until a
full audit and investigation of the practices and monitoring policies that
existed between 38 Studios and the EDC is completed and released and reform is
under way. Why penalize other loan applicants for the failing of one program?
GIROUARD:
The seriousness and magnitude of the 38 Studios loan raises a big red flag
regarding the implementation of the EDC loan program. While the issues
surrounding the 38 Studios loan go well beyond EDC, taxpayers need assurances
that available loans will be equitably administered going forward.
Your
specific question appears to presume that our suggested audit will take too long
to produce. The kind of analysis we seek need not be a multi-year project. Given
the will to do it, it could be done in three to six months, during which time
grants could be received, studied and results withheld until future action is
determined.
We would
hope that loans could be available sooner if an objective oversight for all
loans is established, and an agreement could be reached on capping loans at a
sustainable amount. While reasonable people might disagree on what constitutes a
“sustainable” amount, once the funds are available and the average number of
requests is known, it should be possible to reach an agreement.
Finally, it
might be suggested that the EDC does not belong in the business of loans, to
pick winners and losers. EDC is most effective if its focus is on reducing
business regulations – and the ease of starting a business by running
interference for firms wanting to locate here and removing the blocks.
5. PBN:
How many members do you have, how do you grow that membership, and does your
nonpartisan label help attract your sizeable following?
GIROUARD:
While specific details on our membership are confidential, the RIT weekday
newsletter, The Taxation Times, is sent out to more than 5,000 people, and
growing at an impressive rate. Our experience over the 10 years of our existence
leaves no doubt that taxpayers are concerned about their state – and the
potential for higher taxes and fees to sustain the state and municipal budgets
that seem to always trend upward.
We are
nonpartisan politically, and feel that it is in the best interests of all
taxpayers that our message be solidly based on sound data and successful
experience.
We utilize
every accepted method to grow our membership, including our website
www.ritaxpayers.com, the Taxation Times, our two annual meetings each year, our
participation in social media, and, in particular, our many media contacts and
the appearance of our officers and directors on local television and radio.